Friday, October 28, 2005

 

Plame, Wilson Still Traitorous Liars

Now that Patrick Fitzgerald has handed down his indictments against Scooter Libby, several things remain clear:

-Scooter Libby has not been charged with outing a covert CIA operative, which issue was the point of the investigation;

-Valerie Plame and a small group of her antiwar CIA co-workers conspired to discredit the President and thereby delegitimize the removal of Saddam Hussein from power;

-Joe Wilson provided anonymous and false allegations to Nicholas Kristof and Walter Pincus and others that Dick Cheney had sent him to Niger, in order to cover up the fact that he went to Niger on behalf of the aforementioned small group of CIA employees, led by his wife Valerie Plame, bent on discrediting the White House and President Bush on the invasion of Iraq;

-There was no great conspiracy by the White House to punish Joe Wilson by exposing his wife as a covert agent. First, Valerie Plame was not a covert agent, and had not been one for at least six years prior. Second, any ‘punishment’ flowing to Joe Wilson derived from his exposure as a liar after the White House set out to discover why Wilson was falsely claiming to have been assigned to Niger by Dick Cheney;

-Wilson’s claims through Kristof and Pincus that Iraq had made no attempts to buy Nigerian yellowcake were shown by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence to be lies. In fact, Wilson’s report to SSCI proved that Iraq had attempted exactly that. Wilson also leaked the then-classified matter of the Niger report to SSCI to the Washington Post;

-Had she been an undercover CIA operative, neither the agency nor Valerie Plame would ever have allowed her husband’s public campaign of lies and embellishments against the White House, conducted as it was on the airwaves and in the major newspapers and magazines.

There's more, of course, but that should be enough to show these two for the vainglorious assholes they are.

Comments:
"Wilson was falsely claiming to have been assigned to Niger by Dick Cheney"

When?
 
forever. what's your point?
 
You cannot supply the exact quote of Wilson "falsely claiming" he was sent to Niger by Dick Cheney because Wilson never made such a claim.
Yet you wilfully propagate that lie.
Prove what you claim or STFU.
 
Wilson made that very claim in his own July 6 2003 NYT editorial. That was his cover story for having been nominated to the CIA for his "mission" to Niger by his wife:

"It was my experience in Africa that led me to play a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs. Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me. In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake — a form of lightly processed ore — by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office.”
 
There is nothing in your quote that points to Wilson claiming Cheney sent him.
Wilson does say the CIA sent him: "The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger...". He says the CIA told him Cheney's office had questions about an intel report but nowhere does he claim Cheney advised the CIA to send him.
You may make that connection but it is certainly not made in the quote you provide.
 
Just to clear it up for you, idiot, here is a paragraph directly from Wilson's own online bio:
"Wilson is now at the center of a major political maelstrom involving the White House, the C.I.A. and the second gulf war in Iraq. In 2002, at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney, Wilson was assigned by the C.I.A. to investigate claims that Saddam Hussein was seeking to acquire uranium from Niger for the purpose of advancing his nuclear program. When his investigation turned up nothing, Wilson reported back to officials in Washington that there was no basis for the claims."
 
You have cleared up nothing. My challenge was for you to provide the quote by Wilson in which he claims Cheney sent him. So far you have not done that. Nor, I will predict, will you ever be able to do that.
Regarding your accusation that Wilson claimed Cheney sent him to Niger, you wrote "Wilson made that very claim in his own July 6 2003 NYT editorial." yet when challenged on that assertion you entirely abandon the editorial you say contains the proof and instead point to some online bio that is not, I would note, his official bio.
That can be found here:
http://www.cpsag.com/our_team/wilson.html
or you can see it here:
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1497427

Plain and simple, the bio you selected contains no quote attributed to Wilson on this matter. Your "proof" has still not been produced.
These are the facts: Wilson has written that the CIA sent him. Wilson said in his NYT piece "I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report." and "The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office."
And later in the WaPo "...in the zeal to be responsive to the legitimate concerns raised by the vice president, officials of her agency turned to a known functionary who had previously checked out uranium-related questions for them."

So you hate Joe Wilson. If you have strong well sourced arguments as to why, I suggest you make them instead of resorting to childish name-calling, linking to other partisan smears and drawing duplicitous conclusions.
 
"at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney, Wilson was assigned..."

What about that don't you get? Figure it out, idiot.
 
Actually I abandoned nothing; since Wilson's NYT editorial, a pack of lies as you must know but seem willing to ignore, did not satisfy you, I turned to his online bio as a second example. Wilson obviously approved the bio himself or it wouldn't be there. No reasonable adult needs anything more than that. Because it doesn't present the claim in exactly the form you demand, you reject it because it's somehow not "official". I don't know what that means when the bio to which I refer is from the left-wing PR company run by Dana Priest's husband, who uses that very text to sell Wilson on the rubber chicken circuit for tens of thousands of dollars a whack. You know all that, so don't insult me by pretending you don't.

You're upset because you know Wilson is a liar and a crank and you see what a gross mistake you've made in believing him; otherwise you'd be selling his virtues to the world instead of parsing his every utterance in its finest detail, scouring for some crumb to support your delirium. You're desperate and grasping at straws. Understandable, given the facts:

-Valerie Plame and a small group of her antiwar CIA co-workers conspired to discredit the President and thereby delegitimize the removal of Saddam Hussein from power;

-Joe Wilson provided anonymous and false allegations to Nicholas Kristof and Walter Pincus and others that Dick Cheney had sent him to Niger, in order to cover up the fact that he went to Niger on behalf of the aforementioned small group of CIA employees, led by his wife Valerie Plame, bent on discrediting the White House and President Bush on the invasion of Iraq;

-There was no great conspiracy by the White House to punish Joe Wilson by exposing his wife as a covert agent. First, Valerie Plame was not a covert agent, and had not been one for at least six years prior. Second, any ‘punishment’ flowing to Joe Wilson derived from his exposure as a liar after the White House set out to discover why Wilson was falsely claiming to have been assigned to Niger by Dick Cheney;

-Wilson’s claims through Kristof and Pincus that Iraq had made no attempts to buy Nigerian yellowcake were shown by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence to be lies. In fact, Wilson’s report to SSCI proved that Iraq had attempted exactly that. Wilson also leaked the then-classified matter of the Niger report to SSCI to the Washington Post;

-Had she been an undercover CIA operative, neither the agency nor Valerie Plame would ever have allowed her husband’s public campaign of lies and embellishments against the White House, conducted as it was on the airwaves and in the major newspapers and magazines.

Joe Wilson's problem is that you can't smear someone by telling the truth about him. The truth is that Wilson lied about being sent to Niger by the Vice President in order to cover his wife's involvement in the scheme to undermine the case for taking out Saddam. Wilson lied about the forged documents. Wilson lied that his report to the CIA had reached Cheney's office. Wilson lied by omission in his op-ed when he left out his conversation with the former prime minister of Niger, who had told him that Iraq had sought to buy uranium from Niger. Wilson lied when he claimed that his findings contradicted the sixteen words in the SOTU address; they did not contradict Bush at all. Wilson lied when he claimed his wife had nothing to do with his being chosen to go to Niger. Wilson appears to lie whenever and wherever he can find an audience, which is usually made up of unquestioning idealogues like yourself.

But hey, if professing fealty to Joseph C. Wilson The Fourth helps you hold your crumbling world view together, go for it.
 
I revise this passage,
"Valerie Plame and a small group of her antiwar CIA co-workers conspired to discredit the President and thereby delegitimize the removal of Saddam Hussein from power", to read,

"Valerie Plame and a LARGE group of her antiwar CIA co-workers conspired to discredit the President and thereby delegitimize the removal of Saddam Hussein from power."
 
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